Randi Olsdatter's father and immigration

[Martina Clyne]

I'm trying to figure out Randi Olsdatter's father, in her birth record it states that Ole Amundsen is her father but in her marriage record it states Ole Brynjulfsen.  Did her father die and her mother remarry?

 

Here is Randi's birth record, number 45.

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8966/58

 

Here is the marriage record for Randi Olsdatter and Gunder Gulbrandsen at Jevnaker church April 29, 1874. Number 17.

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8967/199

 

The 1875 census shows the married couple with Gunder's mother living with them in Jevnaker, Lunner.  I know they immigrated April 6, 1883 from Lunner, Hadeland.  I don't have the actual record of this to verify but I do have the Census from 1895 living in Erhard Groves, Minnesota.

 

Would appreciate any information relating to the immigration and if Randi and Gunder had any children before they left for America.

 

Thank you for your assistance.

 

 

 

 

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Randi's birth record says Uægte = born out of wedlock.

Father: Ungk(ar) = Spinster Ole Amundsen Kløstad and pige = maid/servant Margrete Tostensd(atter) Oveneje(?).

If they didn't marry - she may have married another man later on.

 

Jon Erik

Endret November 2, 2018 av Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Trude Nilsen]

I found this, number 11, right side:

 

SAH, Jevnaker prestekontor, Lysningsprotokoll nr. 2, 1867-1897
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060626050061

 

This record states that Ole Amundsen is her father.

 

Sorry, I don't know the english word for "lysningsprotokoll".

 

 

Endret November 2, 2018 av Trude Nilsen

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

This could be Ole Amundsen with his family in neighbouring Gran parish.

 

But: Where was Randi living in 1865 (census), and where was Ole?

 

Emigration 1883:  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000000979060

[Kari Bogfjelldal]

Randi Olsdatter living at Flugstadhaugen in Fåberg at the time of her confirmation in 1867, no 60:SAH, Fåberg prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 6A, 1855-1867, s. 250
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131660336

 

[Martina Clyne]

3 hours ago, Jon Erik Berg-Hansen said:

This could be Ole Amundsen with his family in neighbouring Gran parish.

 

But: Where was Randi living in 1865 (census), and where was Ole?

 

Emigration 1883:  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000000979060

 

I appreciate the emigration record for Gunder Gulbrandsen but I don't see Randi listed as immigrating with him.  Did she leave later after he settled in Minnesota?  Would appreciate finding her emigration record as well.  Thank you Jon Erik Berg-Hansen.

[Martina Clyne]

1 hour ago, Kari Bogfjelldal said:

Randi Olsdatter living at Flugstadhaugen in Fåberg at the time of her confirmation in 1867, no 60:SAH, Fåberg prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 6A, 1855-1867, s. 250
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131660336

 

 

Thank you Kari Bogfjelldal, I didn't have Randi's Confirmation records. 

 

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

(5) Forgot the link to possible Ole and family:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/search/76/8969?forenamn=ole&etternamn=amund*&kjonn=&rolle=far&stilling_stand=&bustad=Kløv*&fodestad=&fodselsaar=&fodselsdato=&aar=&dpdato=&stadfesta=&sokn_kyrkje=&ekte_uekte=&vigd=&introd=&dpstad=&merknader=

 

And Ole + family in 1865: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038071009072

Endret November 3, 2018 av Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

Racing thru the parish records for Jevnaker 1874 - 1884, I find no children listed for this couple.

 

Messing things up? :

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000979060

Click  Next - and you'll see that he travelled in the company of another (married) woman from Jevnaker - both going to Rothsay.

None of them (Gunder or Randi) are listed in the parish records as moving out of Jevnaker.

Endret November 3, 2018 av Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Martina Clyne]

Hmmm I'm confused?  So I need to search for Randi's immigration because they are listed together in Minnesota 1895 census.  I wonder if the other married woman was a sister-in-law of his?

 

Gustav (Gunder) Adolph Gulbrandsen (b. Aug 21, 1866 in Jevnaker) parents were Erik Gulbrandsen and Marte Johnsdatter.  Are you able to find his birth record, I have the Ancestry text only collection, not the actual record.

 

Randi's father Ole Amundsen and her mother Margarethe Tollefsdatter or Torstensdatter (various translations I have received) must be listed in a census? The ones you provided don't list Margarethe as the mother?

 

Thanks again Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

In (2) I stated that Randi was born out of wedlock.

 

In (8) I assumed that this was Ole in his marriage.

 

In (1) The mother's name is Magrete(*1) Tostens(*2)datter  - living on Oveneje (part of the Oven farm)

 

*1 Also written Margrethe / Margarethe - - - .

*2 Sometimes also written Torstens -  - - .

 

I'm not able to find this Magrete/Margrethe listed anywhere in the digitized records.

We don't know her age - and she may have died prior to the 1865 census.

[Kari Bogfjelldal]

Just to add to the confusion, there are 3 people leaving Jevnaker for Rothsay on April 4 1883, Gunder Gulbrandsen, Ingeborg Olsdatter and Andrine Emilsdatter, 3 years old.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/search/3/100098?fornavn=&etternavn=&kjonn=&bosted=jevnaker&fodestad=&fodselsdato=&fodselsaar=&alder=&stilling_stand=&familiestilling=&utreisedato=1883&reisemal=rothsay&ankomstdato=&linje=&skip=&agent=&pass=&nytt_yrke=&aarsak=&utreisehavn=&ekspdato=&kontraktdato=&herred=&fogderi=&prgjeld=

The same family in Rothsay 1885, only the wife is called Rangdi Gubranson. https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aandrine~ %2Bsurname%3AEmilsdatter~https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68L3-BRV

In the handwritten record Rangdis surname seem to be Guderson:

[Kari Bogfjelldal]

Rangdi's mother Margrethe Torstensdatter?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000000139034

[Egil Johannessen]

Travelled with ship CASPIAN, arriving in Halifax, N.S., Baltimore, MD and St. John's, Nfld. on 1883-04-20. FS and Ancestry obviously struggled transcribing their names, except Ingeborg. Gunder and Ingeborg together on the pass. list, image 3, number 652 & 654. Andrine on image 4, number 026620.

 

Canada Passenger Lists, 1881-1922 - Lenke FS: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q92-G5Z
Name:    G Mcbrandson
Event Type:    Immigration
Event Date:    Apr 1883
Event Place:    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender:    Male
Age:    35
Birth Year (Estimated):    1848
Birthplace:    Foreign
Ship Name:    Caspian

 

Ancestry Transcr.

The Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name:    G Guebrandson
Gender:    Male
Arrival Age:    35
Birth Year:    abt 1848
Departure Port:    Liverpool, England
Arrival date:    Apr 1883
Arrival Port:    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Vessel:    Caspian

 

Canada Passenger Lists, 1881-1922
Name:    Ingeborg Olsen
Event Type:    Immigration
Event Date:    Apr 1883
Event Place:    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender:    Female
Age:    28
Birth Year (Estimated):    1855
Birthplace:    Foreign
Ship Name:    Caspian
 

Canada Passenger Lists, 1881-1922 - Lenke FS: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q92-G5Y
Name:    A Ermladahr
Event Type:    Immigration
Event Date:    Apr 1883
Event Place:    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender:    Female
Age:    3
Birth Year (Estimated):    1880
Birthplace:    Canada
Ship Name:    Caspian

Endret November 3, 2018 av Egil Johannessen

[Jon Erik Berg-Hansen]

I tried - for a possible connection - to find this girl Andrine Emilsdatter baptized in Jevnaker 1879-1881 - negative!

 

Jon Erik

Endret November 3, 2018 av Jon Erik Berg-Hansen

[Martina Clyne]

Thank you all for your help!!!!   I was told that Annie (Andrine possibly) was adopted and that Gunder and Randi didn't have any biological children.  In Gunder's death record Dec 28, 1939 in Erhard, Otter Tail County, Minnesota it list his wife as Randi Thorstenson.  The birth date is not correct but I have found that to be true with some other family members.

 

  https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60722/41742_314655-00060/4600161?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/13309194/person/400050140831/facts/citation/1100271946877/edit/record

Here is their tombstone on Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/53008846

 

Just not sure how Ingeborg fits in this family? 

 

I need to take a step back and review all the US documents I have and work backwards again.  

Endret November 3, 2018 av Martina Clyne