Dødsattest

[marianne Brady]

Hei !

Jeg håper noen kan hjelpe meg, med å finne min farfars dødsattest, her er opplysningene jeg har:

Albert August Hansen Brady, han brukte Breda i Norge, han var født i Sem/ Slagen. Han var født 10. Juli 1881. Hans nr. på militærkort er 30455.

Han reiste til usa i 1902. Arbeidet som Conductor i Chicago Surface Lines, Chicago Illinois.

Det heter seg at han døde ved jernbanen i 1919, eller av spanske syken. Skulle gjerne vist med sikkerhet hva som er sant.

Hans kone Marie Haraldsen Brady gift 23/11- 1912. Har prøv å skrive til cook kommune, men kommer ingen vei, finner det ikke i slekts data basen .

Håper på svar.

Mvh Marianne Brady

[Jackie K Marler]

Cook county is a big busy county so you're likely not to find a lot of friendly people there.  But there are a lot of databases that should be of help.  From whom did you get the information on Albert that you have, family stories?

 

Did he marry in America in 1912 or Norway?

[Jackie K Marler]

Is this your guy?  Says  son Herold born in Minneapolis

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000006081601

 

Okay this must be your guy: 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000002037700

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[Jackie K Marler]

When Marie came to America it says she was going to family, who?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/557/pe00000000725189

[Jackie K Marler]

Kind of a bit long odds but there is an Albert Hanson in Minneapolis in 1908 whose occupation is "car operator" for a company with the initials T.C.R.T which could likely be Twin City Rapid? orRailway or railroad Train or Transit: https://box2.nmtvault.com/Hennepin2/jsp/RcWebImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=7083e412-1de2-42fe-b070-7f82e5c869a4/mnmhcl00/20130429/00000016&pg_seq=680&search_doc=&query1_modifier=AND&query1=albert a hanson&query1_field=ALL

 

And this might be the same Albert  here in the 1920 census married to a Clara with a daughter named Audrey who is a car operator for a street railway:

"United States, Census, 1920", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWYK-NBM : Wed Jan 22 10:38:31 UTC 2025), Entry for Albert A Hansen and Clara R Hansen, 1920.

 

His age differs than your original post, (and the age in his and Marianne's marriage record)  he was born in Minnesota about 1890. 

 

Here is a family tree which states he died in 1942:

 https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/GNR4-KN7

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[Jackie K Marler]

Here is an Albert H Brady a chauffeur 1913 in Minneapolis:

https://box2.nmtvault.com/Hennepin2/jsp/RcWebImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=7083e412-1de2-42fe-b070-7f82e5c869a4/mnmhcl00/20130429/00000021&pg_seq=305&search_doc=&query1_modifier=AND&query1=brady&query1_field=ALL

 

Here are an Albert M Brady a cook and Mrs. Marie Brady living at two different addresses in Minneapolis in 1914:

https://box2.nmtvault.com/Hennepin2/jsp/RcWebImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=7083e412-1de2-42fe-b070-7f82e5c869a4/mnmhcl00/20130429/00000022&pg_seq=329&search_doc=&query1_modifier=AND&query1=brady&query1_field=ALL

 

Here is an August Brady in Minneapolis in 1915:

https://box2.nmtvault.com/Hennepin2/jsp/RcWebImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=7083e412-1de2-42fe-b070-7f82e5c869a4/mnmhcl00/20130429/00000023&pg_seq=329&search_doc=brady&query1_modifier=AND&query1=brady&query1_field=ALL

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[Jackie K Marler]

https://www.mnhs.org/search/people/record?uuid=29f59438-aef8-4f85-8d2c-959f99825686&record_type=birth-records&recordType=birth-records

Brady, Harold John

Family name

Brady

First name

Harold

Middle name

John

Mother’s maiden name

Haraldson

Birth date

1913-08-05

County

Hennepin County

Certificate ID

1913-41575

 

 

 

[Jackie K Marler]

These are Albert Brady deaths in the 1916-1972 Illinois state death index:

BRADY	ALBERT		M	UNK	6025321	1929-08-31	COOK	CHICAGO	1929-09-01
BRADY	ALBERT		M	UNK	6009599	1933-04-06	COOK	CHICAGO	1933-04-07
BRADY	ALBERT	A	M	UNK	0910211	1925-07-29	UNION	ROAD DIST NO 5	1925-07-30
BRADY	ALBERT	A	M	Y-62	6001822	1968-01-14	COOK	CHICAGO	1968-01-16
BRADY	ALBERT	EUGENE	M	UNK	2841017	1928-11-29	SANGAMON	SPRINGFIELD	1928-12-01
BRADY	ALBERT	PORTER	M	UNK	0230304	1931-12-08	EDGAR	PARIS	1931-12-10

[Dag T. Hoelseth]

Jackie, please note that there are several threads in this forum that cover Albert Brady or his family circle. You might want to read them first before adding information that has already been given earlier.

 

DTH

[Jackie K Marler]

Hmm Thanks, I think, Dag.  But sometimes you have to plow over the old ground again to see if anything else turns up..  Obviously, Marianne is not satisfied that all the efforts have brought the right results before, otherwise she wouldn't have started a new topic, but just have continued on one of the others, right?   

 

I guess I wonder if Harold's birth record has actually been viewed.  Not everything gets into the indexed versions, better to have the original if possible and mine it for things about the father, too. 

[marianne Brady]

Hei Jackie !

Takk for dine svar til emnet døds attest. 

Grunnen til at jeg ber om hjelp. Jeg har brukt dette forum mye, og fått gode svar. Jeg har nå funnet Albert August Hansen Brady f. 10 juli 1881 i Norge i Vestfold. Han reiste til USA i 1902. Ble gift med Mary Olson fra Sverige i 1904, fikk to barn med henne en datter Alice 1905 og Geroge i 1908. Om de ble skilt eller om hun døde vet jeg ikke. Albert giftet seg med min farmor 23. nov 1912 i Minneapolis. De fikk min far den 5aug 1913 i Hennepin Minneapolis.  Jeg fikk frem det Orginale militær kortet til Albert fra Gemeni, der er hans mlitærnr 30455, som stemmer med eit bilde av han i militær uniform der også dette nr. står., så det er han. Jeg har ikke vist at han var opprinnelig norsk, I Norge heite han Breda og ikke Brady, han må ha endret navn da han kom til USA.

Det som jeg ønsker er å få vite om han døde i en jernbane ulykke eller i pandemien. I gjennom gemeni sies det at han døde 24.okt 1919 ved jernbanen i Cook Illinois, men det sies at han også døde i pandemien, som var da. Jeg finner ikke noen ting om dette da jeg søker MyHeritage, Ancestry og FamilySearh.  Min farmor og far reiste hjem til Norge den 28. økt 1919 med Stavangerfjord fra New York, fire dager etter hans død, hva er sant?  På hans militærkort står det at de bor i 4443 N Kittie ave, Chicago , ILL, HAN VAR CONDUCTOR  I Chicago surface Lines , Chicago, ILL.  Døde han? eller var de skilt ? Derfor ønsker jeg hans dødsattest. Han ble registret i militæret sept.12 1918 i Chicago ILL.

Håper  du kan finne ut av dette. !!!

MVH

Marianne Brady

[Jackie K Marler]

Any theory why your father wasn't baptized until he was 6 years old?

[marianne Brady]

Hei ! Jeg har min fars dåpsattest, men jeg vet ikke hvorfor han var seks år før han ble døpt.

mvh

Marianne Brady

[Jackie K Marler]

15 minutes ago, marianne Brady said:

Hei ! Jeg har min fars dåpsattest, men jeg vet ikke hvorfor han var seks år før han ble døpt.

mvh

Marianne Brady

Okay, the Johnsons who were sponsors for his baptism do you know who they are?  Relatives maybe?

 

[Jackie K Marler]

The "military card" you mentioned was the title of the database that holds it this: United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 

[marianne Brady]

Hei !

Lina Johnsson, Thea Matland, Henrikke Matland var min farmors tanter fra Norge, Inger Marie Johnson var datter av Lina Johnson ( som het Nicoline Agate Johnson) . Thea Matland betalte billetten til USA for min farmor Marie ( Marianne) Haraldsen, hun reiste fra Norge den 17. april 1910, til New York. Disse tantene var skreddere, noe som min farmor også var. Adressen til noen var Monticello 1649 Cook ILL.

 

Navnet på militærkortet er: Local Board Chicago sept 12, 1918, serial Number A 382 Registration card ( FORM  1 ) order number 309

 

mvh

Marianne Brady

[Jackie K Marler]

4 hours ago, marianne Brady said:

Hei !

Lina Johnsson, Thea Matland, Henrikke Matland var min farmors tanter fra Norge, Inger Marie Johnson var datter av Lina Johnson ( som het Nicoline Agate Johnson) . Thea Matland betalte billetten til USA for min farmor Marie ( Marianne) Haraldsen, hun reiste fra Norge den 17. april 1910, til New York. Disse tantene var skreddere, noe som min farmor også var. Adressen til noen var Monticello 1649 Cook ILL.

Thanks for sharing.  She may have landed at New York but her ultimate destination was given in the digitalarkivet record as Chicago.

4 hours ago, marianne Brady said:

 

Navnet på militærkortet er: Local Board Chicago sept 12, 1918, serial Number A 382 Registration card ( FORM  1 ) order number 309

 

mvh

Marianne Brady

This is a draft registration card for World War I.  It doesn't necessarily mean that he was actually taken into the army but just that he was registered, as required by law.  I've looked at two different sites familysearch and ancestry library edition in their searchable versions of WWI draft registration cards but did not find one for Albert Brady who matched the given birthdate you have of 10 July 1881.  There were many registrants who had that birthdate.  At Ancestry you have a little bit better search capability, you can search more items and I found only two men as registrants who were in their database  whose names were Brady, a Daniel John Brady and a Robert Brady.  So if you have a link, I'd like to see Albert's card.

 

I wonder if the reason Harald was finally baptized just before they left U.S. was to get things tidy as Marianne had already made her decision to leave?  In the baptismal record there was an address given and I think it was 1712 N Campbell Ave, which is different than the last address you had at Kittie Ave.  Google tells me that there is no street in Chicago called Kittie but is actually Kitty (a different spelling) and is located in Chicago Ridge a suburb of Chicago.  

 

Here is a short history of transit lines in Chicago:

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/2610.html

 

Here is a short history of Chicago Ridge:

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/262.html

 

If Albert died in 1919 in a train accident, more than likely there would be a full story or a mention in newspapers.  I use Genealogybank.com, Illinois Digital newspaper collection and newspapers.com but have been unable to find a mention of such an event which included someone named Albert Brady.  The marriage license issued in Hennepin county, Minnesota was mentioned in the local paper, but as far as I have found using the two databases mentioned along with the Minnesota Digital Newspaper Hub and the separate St. Paul Pioneer Press and Swedish newspaper base, found no mention of Albert Brady other than the marriage license.

 

Application for license:

"Minnesota, County Marriages, 1853-1983", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKNY-YY4 : Sun Mar 10 05:29:23 UTC 2024), Entry for Albert A Brady and Mare Harlson, 1912.

Actual recording of the marriage by the government:

"Minnesota, County Marriages, 1853-1983", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJGB-3WFV : Sat Mar 09 17:00:53 UTC 2024), Entry for Albert A Brady and Marie Haroldson, 23 November 1912.

 

They were married by a Universalist pastor named Marion D. Shutter of the Church of the Redeemer.  This was a Universalist church and apparently still in operation today and here is a little information about that denomination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism   

This religious affiliation might also explain why Harald wasn't baptized until he was 6.

 

Did you ever order the actual certificate of Harald's birth?  If you haven't you may want to, to harvest all information it might contain on the father.

 

[marianne Brady]

Hei !

Takk for god forklaring. Slik jeg forstår det så bodde de ikke sammen da farmor reiste hjem til Norge. Var de skilt, eller var han i militære , eller var han død ?

Jeg kjøpt far sin fødsel attest, den Orginale. Jeg har også hans dåpsattest ,og bilde av han i en uniform der nr på militærkortet står på bilde av Albert. Bilde av han i uniform har jeg fra min farmors gamle papir.

Jeg kan sende deg desse, hvis du gir meg din mailadresse.

 

mvh Marianne

[marianne Brady]

Hei !

Jeg lurer på hvor du fant adr. 1712N Campbell ave.   Jeg får ikke til å sende deg bilde av militærkortet her, beklager.

mvh Marianne