Fra Førde på Vestlandet til Beiarn i Nordland - Hvem var Ole Iver Andreassen?

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

7 timer siden, Harald G Olsen skrev:

Tusen takk igjen Torbjørn!
 

Jeg ser at Oliver Henrik Andreas har forskjellige koner på de to slektstrærne. Kan dette bety at han ble gift to ganger? Siden han er oppgitt med forskjellige barn på de to trærne kan dette også bety at vi snakker om to forskjellige personer?  Meget interessant at han og Sara fikk flere barn i USA, men treet har ikke fullstendig informasjon om dem. Hvis det stemmer at Oliver ble gift i Øksnes i Lofoten, kan det være sannsynlig at Oliver reiste nordover sammen med sin far Ole Iver. 

 

Fantastisk at du har funnet Andreas. Sannsynligheten er vel absolutt tilstede for at paret fikk barn?

 

Då eg søkte i Familysearch meiner eg at eg såg fødselsdatoen 12/3 1842 10/3 1844 på begge variantane der, så det er nok ein og same person som har vore gift to gonger. Elles må ein sjølvsagt sjekke kyrkjebøkene for å vite at ikkje det som ligg i slektstrea er rot og tull.

Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Torbjørn Igelkjøn
Retting

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

4 minutter siden, Harald G Olsen skrev:

Er folketellinger fra USA søkbare på nett?

 

Dei er søkbare hos familysearch.org og hos ancestry.com ($). Det var føderale folketeljingar kvart 10. år, men 1890-teljinga brann stort sett opp. Det ligg ute folketeljingar til og med 1940.

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

Hanille som enkje i 1910:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036575010504

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

... og døydde 26/7 1936:

https://www.nb.no/search?q=Halbrændt&mediatype=aviser&counties=Vest-Agder

[Harald G Olsen]

Kan dette være familien i 1900?

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMKN-KT5

 

 

[Harald G Olsen]

Kan dette være samme familie i Census 1910? Underlig at husfar Oliver er registrert her i 1910, og ikke 10 år tidligere. 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVY-FX6

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

For å avslutte det med Andreas i Kristiansand, så døydde han 11/8 1910:

 

Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand i Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 22 (1909-1917), Døde og begravede 1910, Side 357
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb10411206195351
 

Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Dødsfallsprotokoll nr. 8 (1902-1916), Dødsfallsprotokollside, Side 46
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411203123048
 

Han etterlet seg enkje, ingen born.

Endret Februar 14, 2018 av Torbjørn Igelkjøn

[Ann-Mary Engum]

8 timer siden, Torbjørn Igelkjøn skrev:

 

På Familysearch finn eg følgjande slektstre:

 

 

 

(Det siste treet inneheld også aner bakover frå Maria Sakariasdtr.)

 

Oliver Oliverson, Jr

Birth:  Nov., 1883 Eau Claire Eau Claire County Wisconsin, USA Death:  Aug. 15, 1907 Eau Claire Eau Claire County Wisconsin, USA Rail road accident victim. Both legs were severed, but he had rallied while in the hospital and then worsened a few days later. Survived by a wife Mayme nee Nehrer, child, parents, 2 brothers and a sister.    Burial: Northside Lutheran Cemetery  Eau Claire Eau Claire County Wisconsin, USA   Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]   Created by: mjshistory Record added: Jan 28, 2015  Find A Grave Memorial# 141884847

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=oliverson&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScnty=3009&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=141884847&df=all&

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Fridtzof E Oliverson

Wisconsin Birth Index

Name	Fridtzof E Oliverson
Event Type	Birth
Event Date	26 Sep 1888
Event Place	Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Affiliate Film Number	0061
Record Number	000443

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VHHV-HRG

 

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Fridtzof Emil Oliverson

Wisconsin Births and Christenings

Name	Fridtzof Emil Oliverson
Gender	Male
Birth Date	26 Sep 1888
Birthplace	Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Race	White
Father's Name	Oliver Oliverson
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Name	Sarah Vinton
Mother's Birthplace	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRJ4-MJ5

 

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Oliver Oliverson

Wisconsin State Census, 1905

Name:	Oliver Oliverson
Residence Place:	Eau Claire city, ward 10, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Age (Original):	61y
Birth Year (Estimated):	Abt 1844
Birthplace:	Norway
Relationship to Head of Household (Original Language):	Head
Race:	White
Gender:	Male
Marital Status:	Married
Parent 1 Birthplace:	Norway
Parent 2 Birthplace:	Norway

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Oliver Oliverson

Head

Male

61y

Norway

Sarah M Oliverson

Wife

Female

55y

Norway

Andrew W Oliverson

Son

Male

24y

Wisconsin

Oliver T Oliverson

Son

Male

21y

Wisconsin

Fred Emil Oliverson

Son

Male

16y

Wisconsin

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM39-7H9

 

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Fred Oliverson

United States Census, 1910

Name	Fred Oliverson
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Eau Claire Ward 10, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Male
Age	21
Marital Status	Single
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Son
Birth Year (Estimated)	1889
Birthplace	Wisconsin
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	19

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Olivers Oliverson	Head	M	66	Norway
Sarah Oliverson	Wife	F	59	Norway
Andrew Oliverson	Son	M	29	Wisconsin
Fred Oliverson	Son	M	21	Wisconsin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVY-FXN

 

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Fred Emil Oliver

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards

Name	Fred Emil Oliver
Event Type	Draft Registration
Event Date	1917-1918
Event Place	St. Croix County, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Male
Nationality	United States
Birth Date	27 Sep 1888
Birthplace	Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K87C-TDX

 

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Fred E Oliver

United States Census, 1930

Name	Fred E Oliver
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1930
Event Place	Sheboygan, Sheboygan, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Male
Age	41
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1889
Birthplace	Wisconsin
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	A
Sheet Number	7

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Fred E Oliver	Head	M	41	Wisconsin
Francis E Oliver	Wife	F	32	Wisconsin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9S1-RV6

 

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Fred Emil Oliver

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name	Fred Emil Oliver
Event Type	Draft Registration
Event Date	1942
Event Place	Sheboygan, Sheboygan, Wisconsin, United States
Residence Place	Sheboygan, Sheboygan, Wisconsin
Gender	Male
Employer	Fred Emil/Oliver
Birth Date	27 Sep 1888

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X53B-F4M

 

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Fred E Oliver

Wisconsin Death Index

Name	Fred E Oliver
Event Type	Death
Event Date	25 Feb 1964
Event Place	, , Wisconsin
Residence Place	, Wisconsin
Gender	Male
Age	75
Certificate Number	009270

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V8SS-PDF

 

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Fred Oliver

United States Social Security Death Index

Age	76
Given Name	Fred
Surname	Oliver
Birth Date	27 Sep 1888
State	Wisconsin
Event Date	Feb 1964

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JL3Y-VYQ

 

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Fred E Oliver

Birth: Sep. 27, 1888
Eau Claire County
Wisconsin, USADeath: Feb. 25, 1964
Sheboygan County
Wisconsin, USA
 Burial:
Woodland Cemetery 
Kohler
Sheboygan County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: Sec 1 
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] 
Created by: Jerry H
Record added: Feb 24, 2014 
Find A Grave Memorial# 125585240

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=oliver&GSfn=fred&GSmn=e&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=125585240&df=all&

 

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Frances I Oliver

Birth: Nov. 14, 1897Death: Jan. 12, 1977
Sheboygan County
Wisconsin, USA
 Burial:
Woodland Cemetery 
Kohler
Sheboygan County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: Sec 1 
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] 
Created by: Jerry H
Record added: Aug 08, 2014 
Find A Grave Memorial# 134045153

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=oliver&GSiman=1&GScid=1995032&GRid=134045153&

Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Angående spørsmålet ditt  i # 31;

 

"

Kan dette være samme familie i Census 1910? Underlig at husfar Oliver er registrert her i 1910, og ikke 10 år tidligere."

 

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Olivers Oliverson

United States Census, 1910

Name:	Olivers Oliverson
Event Type:	Census
Event Date:	1910
Event Place:	Eau Claire Ward 10, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
Gender:	Male
Age:	66
Marital Status:	Married
Race:	White
Race (Original):	White
Relationship to Head of Household:	Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):	Head
Birth Year (Estimated):	1844
Birthplace:	Norway
Immigration Year:	1880
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway
Sheet Letter:	A
Sheet Number:	19

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Olivers Oliverson

Head

Male

66

Norway

Sarah Oliverson

Wife

Female

59

Norway

Andrew Oliverson

Son

Male

29

Wisconsin

Fred Oliverson

Son

Male

21

Wisconsin

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVY-FX6

 

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Her er vel Oliver Oliversen i Census 1900.

Født mars 1844 Norge.

Han står som gift.

Vielsesår 1876.

 

(På slektstreet  Torbjørn Igelkjøn fant sto de som gift 12 sept 1875. Se sitat i #33)

 

Oliver Oliverson

United States Census, 1900

Name:	Oliver Oliverson
Event Type:	Census
Event Year:	1900
Event Place:	Ward 7, Lincoln, Louisiana, United States
Gender:	Male
Age:	56
Marital Status:	Married
Race:	White
Race (Original):	W
Relationship to Head of Household:	Boarder
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):	Boarder
Years Married:	24
Birth Date:	Mar 1844
Birthplace:	Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated):	1876
Immigration Year:	1880
Father's Birthplace:	Norway
Mother's Birthplace:	Norway

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

William B Couch

Head

Male

48

Georgia

Mary E Couch

Wife

Female

44

Mississippi

Kate V Couch

Daughter

Female

22

Arkansas

Julia M Couch

Daughter

Female

17

Arkansas

Ed B Couch

Son

Male

15

Arkansas

Nellie E Couch

Daughter

Female

8

Arkansas

John O Ramstad

Boarder

Male

54

Alabama

Charles Baker

Boarder

Male

51

Norway

Andrew Midland

Boarder

Male

52

Norway

John Brown

Boarder

Male

49

Norway

Oliver Oliverson

Boarder

Male

56

Norway

Ole O Berg

Boarder

Male

36

Norway

Carl Eggen

Boarder

Male

37

Norway

John B Hill

Boarder

Male

 

 

W B Spencer

Boarder

Male

52

Pennsylvania

C B Gemmel

Boarder

Male

34

Pennsylvania

C L Williams

Boarder

Male

37

New York

Richard Rowel

Boarder

Male

33

Wisconsin

Mary Rowel

Boarder

Female

33

Arkansas

Andrew J Carden

Boarder

Male

50

Alabama

Thomas Feny

Boarder

Male

56

Ireland

Henry G Boyle

Boarder

Male

42

Iowa

James E Long

Boarder

Male

 

 

Scott W Hamilton

Boarder

Male

25

Louisiana

Oscar M Mitchell

Boarder

Male

30

Texas

Lena Mitchell

Boarder

Female

26

Texas

Oscar M Mitchell

Boarder

Male

6

Texas

James Mc Inary

Boarder

Male

53

Ireland

Mike Zimmerman

Boarder

Male

26

Illinois

Benjamin F Taylor

Boarder

Male

44

Georgia

W E Taylor

Boarder

Male

 

 

William Owen

Boarder

Male

40

Illinois

John Hass

Boarder

Male

 

 

Charles Cartwright

Boarder

Male

 

 

Linton A Gatlin

Boarder

Male

32

Arkansas

Thomas Roser

Boarder

Male

32

Georgia

Otto Anderson

Boarder

Male

45

Norway

Ole Vinger

Boarder

Male

42

Norway

Thomas Tusken

Boarder

Male

25

Wisconsin

Hugh Mcfadden

Boarder

Male

55

Pennsylvania

Willis Hearn

Servant

Male

47

Louisiana

Alice Hearn

Servant

Female

27

Arkansas

John Ericson

Boarder

Male

 

 

Glover

Boarder

Male

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS5Z-T6X

 

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Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Det jeg har lagt inn om Oliver Oliversen m/familie er med forbehold om at slektstreet som Torbjørn fant er riktig.

 

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Vielse 12/9-1875 i Øksnes.

Enkem. Oliver Henrik Andreas Oliversen  10/3 44, og Pige Sara Marie Pedersdatter Winther 17/6  5

Nr 3

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16735/105

Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Ministerialboken viser at Sara var født 17/6 50.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/10048/159

Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Angående dåpen i # 34.

Mora står skrevet (på FS) som Sarah Vinton.

Det er vel feilskrift for Winther.

Mora står som  Sara Marie Pedersdatter Winther ved vielsen  12/9-1875.

[Ann-Mary Engum]

 

Emma Kaspara Oliversen 

Kjønn:	Kvinne
Født:	7. juli 1876  Øksnes, Nordland, Norway
Død:	november 1934 (58)
Nærmeste familie:	Datter av Oliver Henrik Andreas Oliversen og Sara Marie Pedersdatter Winther  Hustru av Richard Emmet Hoffman  Mor til Richard Earnest Hoffman; Oliver George Hoffman og Sara Eunice Hoffman
Lagt til av:	Arne Skarpås 21. april 2013
Administrert av:	Arne Skarpås

https://www.geni.com/people/Emma-Kaspara-Oliversen/6000000020368467299?through=6000000020368530799

 

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Emma Hoffman

United States Census, 1900

Name	Emma Hoffman
Event Type	Census
Event Year	1900
Event Place	Eau Claire city Ward 10, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Female
Age	24
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	W
Relationship to Head of Household	Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Daughter
Number of Living Children	2
Years Married	2
Birth Date	Jul 1876
Birthplace	Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated)	1898
Immigration Year	1880
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Mother of how many children	2

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Sarah Oliverson	Head	F	50	Norway
Andrew Oliverson	Son	M	20	Wisconsin
Oliver Oliverson	Son	M	17	Wisconsin
Freddie Oliverson	Son	M	12	Wisconsin
Richard Hoffman	Son-in-law	M	33	Germany
Emma Hoffman	Daughter	F	24	Norway
Richard E Hoffman	Grandson	M	2	S Dakota
Eunice I Hoffman	Granddaughter	F	0	Wisconsin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMKN-KT1

 

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Emma S Hoffman

Wisconsin State Census, 1905

Name	Emma S Hoffman
Residence Place	Lincoln, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Age (Original)	29y
Birth Year (Estimated)	Abt 1876
Birthplace	Norway
Relationship to Head of Household (Original Language)	Wife
Race	White
Gender	Female
Marital Status	Married
Parent 1 Birthplace	Norway
Parent 2 Birthplace	Norway

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Richard E Hoffman	Head	M	37y	Germany
Emma S Hoffman	Wife	F	29y	Norway
Richard E Hoffman	Son	M	7y	South Dakota
Sahra Hoffman	Daughter	F	5y	Wisconsin
Oliver Hoffman	Son	M	3y	Wisconsin
Hellen I Hoffman	Daughter	F	1y	Wisconsin
Fred E Oliversn	Brother-In-Law	M	17y	Wisconsin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM3M-PPQ

 

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Emma Hoffman

United States Census, 1910

Name	Emma Hoffman
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Springfield, St Croix, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Female
Age	33
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1870
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	7

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Richard E Hoffman	Head	M	42	Germany
Emma Hoffman	Wife	F	33	Norway
Richard Hoffman	Son	M	11	North Dakota
Sarah Hoffman	Daughter	F	10	Wisconsin
Oliver Hoffman	Son	M	8	Wisconsin
Helen Hoffman	Daughter	F	6	Wisconsin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPV9-5NT

 

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Emma Hoffman

United States Census, 1920

Name	Emma Hoffman
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1920
Event Place	Eau Claire Ward 2, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
Gender	Female
Age	43
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)	1877
Birthplace	Norway
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	1

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Richard E Hoffman	Head	M	52	Germany
Emma Hoffman	Wife	F	43	Norway
Richard E Hoffman Jr.	Son	M	21	Dakota
Sarah Hoffman	Daughter	F	19	Wisconsin
Oliver G Hoffman	Son	M	17	Wisconsin
Helen Hoffman	Daughter	F	16	Wisconsin
Sarah Oliver	Mother-in-law	F	69	Norway

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF2J-QTF

 

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Emma K. Hoffman

Birth: 1876Death: 1934
 
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  Richard E. Hoffman (1866 - 1922)
 
 Children:
  Oliver George Hoffman (1902 - 1969)*
 
*Calculated relationship
 Burial:
Forest Hill Cemetery 
Eau Claire
Eau Claire County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: BL B 
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] 
Created by: Sue Butterfield Picard
Record added: Jul 08, 2012 
Find A Grave Memorial# 93315176

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hoffman&GSfn=emma&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScnty=3009&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=93315176&df=all&

 

Endret Februar 15, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

Emma Caspara Oliverson

Wisconsin, County Marriages, 1836-1911

Name:	Richard Emil Hoffman
Event Type:	Marriage
Event Date:	15 Mar 1898
Event Place:	, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States
Gender:	Male
Father's Name:	George William Hoffman
Mother's Name:	Augusta Bertha Fadie
Spouse's Name:	Emma Caspara Oliverson
Spouse's Gender:	Female
Spouse's Father's Name:	Olive Henrik Andreas
Spouse's Mother's Name:	Winther

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRJG-7S9

[Torbjørn Igelkjøn]

På Familysearch ligg det nok eit slektstre for Emma og Richard Hoffmann. Her er det lagt inn mange kjelder. Nokre av desse har vi alt vore innom, men ikkje alle.

 

Emma:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K8LV-J7M

 

Richard:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MTSQ-BBY

 

(Eg fekk ikkje til å lime inn listene med lenker i forumet).

 

Endret Februar 16, 2018 av Torbjørn Igelkjøn

[Harald G Olsen]

Hjertelig takk til Ann-Mary og Torbjørn for ny informasjon! 

 

Slik det ser ut for meg, hadde Emma og Richard Hoffmann flere barn: Eunice, Richard, Sara og Oliver. Vet vi hvilke barn Fred, Sarah og Andrew hadde? Ut i fra familysearch ser det ut til at deres bror Olivers barn døde i sitt første leveår. Når døde Oliver Andreas Henrik og hans kone? Her er det mange generasjoner Oliver, lett å bli litt forvirret. 

 

Er Fridtjov og Fred samme person?

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Fridtjof Emil og Fred Emil er samme person.

[Harald G Olsen]

På 17.2.2018 den 6.37, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

Fridtjof Emil og Fred Emil er samme person.

Takk for nok en oppklaring. Er det mulig å finne ut om han og Francis barn? Ut ifra folketellingen 1930 ser det ikke slik ut. 

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Har ikke funnet at Fred og Frances fikk barn.

[Harald G Olsen]

Finnes det andre kilder enn folketellinger som kan fortelle mer om hvilke etterkommere Oliver Henrik Andreas fikk?

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Man kan jo søke på FS(Familysearch)

Endret Februar 21, 2018 av Ann-Mary Engum