Ole Elmand Gundersen, f. Tvedestrand 1870, d. Pierce Co 1945

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Er denne sjekket ut?

 

Han står som gift,men kona står ikke sammen med ham på lista.

Står som "Woodsman"

Det passer kanskje ikke helt med din mann?

 

Ole Gunderson

United States Census, 1910

Name	Ole Gunderson
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1910
Event Place	Grays River, Wahkiakum, Washington, United States
Gender	Male
Age	40
Marital Status	Married
Race	White
Race (Original)	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Boarder
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)	Boarder
Birth Year (Estimated)	1870
Birthplace	Norway
Immigration Year	1902
Father's Birthplace	Norway
Mother's Birthplace	Norway
Sheet Letter	B
Sheet Number	2

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Lena Anderson	Head	F	45	Norway
Phena Petersen	Helper	F	15	Washington
Mike J Barger	Boarder	M	24	Iowa
Joseph Clancy	Boarder	M	38	New York
James Kilmartin	Boarder	M	35	Ireland
John Hendricson	Boarder	M	32	Finland
Joseph Mayer	Boarder	M	25	Pennsylvania
Theodore Peterson	Boarder	M	25	Oregon
Robert Fredenburg	Boarder	M	22	Michigan
Frank Spangler	Boarder	M	32	California
Eric Pierson	Boarder	M	42	Sweden
Albert Anderson	Boarder	M	26	Norway
Gust Carlson	Boarder	M	24	Norway
Andrew Anderson	Boarder	M	32	Norway
Ole Gunderson	Boarder	M	40	Norway
Alfred Bostrom	Boarder	M	32	Finland
John Olson	Boarder	M	31	Norway
Lars Nickerson	Boarder	M	27	Sweden
John Johnson	Boarder	M	26	Finland
Eric Johnson	Boarder	M	23	Finland
William Anderson	Boarder	M	37	Finland
Lucien Blank	Boarder	M	23	Nebraska
Joseph May	Boarder	M	47	New York
Albert Olson	Boarder	M	22	Washington
Olaf Bowman	Boarder	M	20	Sweden
Harry Cooman	Boarder	M	30	Belgium

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGVC-MR1

 

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[Oddbjørn Johannessen]

Nei, den har jeg ikke sett!  I 1910 er kona Anna Helgine registret bosatt i Strandhagen, Tvedestrand, sammen med parets to sønner, samt hennes far og en tjenestepike.  Ektemannen, styrmann Ole Elmand Gundersen, er omtalt som fraværende, muligens i Canada.  Anna Helgine driver da syforretning i Tvedestrand.

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Oddbjørn Johannessen

[Ann-Mary Engum]

Angående Gunder;

 

Gunder Mathias Andersen Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 10 September 1868   christening: 18 October 1868 HOLT, AUST-AGDER, NORWAY

father: Andreas Gundersen mother: Johanne Bergithe Gundersen

 

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Emigranter fra Kristiansand 1873-1930
	Hamn	Nr.	År	Mnd.	Dag	Førenamn	Etternamn	Kjønn	Stand	Yrke	Fødd år	Bustad	Reisemål	Merknad	Linje

Kristiansand

1234

1895

Mai

24

Gunder Mathias

Gundersen

m

U

Handelsbetj.

1868

Tvedestrand

N York

102

Scandia

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=KRISTUT&gardpostnr=27763&merk=27763#ovre

 

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Gunder Mathias Gundersen

New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)

Name	Gunder Mathias Gundersen
Event Type	Immigration
Event Date	10 Jun 1895
Event Place	Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Gender	Male
Age	26
Nationality	Norway, Norwegian
Birth Year	1869
Departure Port	Christiansand
Ship Name	Venetia
Page Number	748
Affiliate Line Number	0322

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX3T-F35

 

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Emigranter fra Kristiansand 1873-1930
	Hamn	Nr.	År	Mnd.	Dag	Førenamn	Etternamn	Kjønn	Stand	Yrke	Fødd år	Bustad	Reisemål	Merknad	Linje

Kristiansand

1775

1902

Juli

17

Gunder Mathias

Gundersen

M

Kontorist

1868

Tvedestrand

New York

UDV.TILL.

THINGVALLA

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=KRISTUT&gardpostnr=59462&merk=59462#ovre

 

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Gunder M. Gundersen

New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)

Name	Gunder M. Gundersen
Event Type	Immigration
Event Date	28 Jul 1902
Event Place	Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place	Tvedestrand
Gender	Male
Age	33
Marital Status	Single
Nationality	Norway, Norwegian
Birth Year	1869
Departure Port	Christiansand
Ship Name	Oscar ll
Page Number	57
Affiliate Line Number	0019

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JF2H-54M

 

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Samme mann?

Gunder M Gundersen

New York State Census, 1925

Name	Gunder M Gundersen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1925
Event Place	Brooklyn, A.D. 09, E.D. 30, Kings, New York, United States
Gender	Male
Age	56
Nationality	Norway
Race	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1869
Years in United States	43
House Number	7917
Page	52

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9BQ-ZZ7

 

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Gunder M. Gundersen

Birth:  unknown Death:  May 22, 1940   Note: Date may be interment or re-interment   Burial: Green-Wood Cemetery  Brooklyn Kings County (Brooklyn) New York, USA Plot: 27263   Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]   Created by: Athanatos Record added: Dec 25, 2012  Find A Grave Memorial# 102628718

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=gundersen&GSfn=gunder+&GSmn=m&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=102628718&df=all&

 

 

[Oddbjørn Johannessen]

Hjertelig takk nok en gang, Ann-Mary!

[Egil Johannessen]

7 minutter siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

Samme mann?

Gunder M Gundersen

New York State Census, 1925

Name	Gunder M Gundersen
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1925
Event Place	Brooklyn, A.D. 09, E.D. 30, Kings, New York, United States
Gender	Male
Age	56
Nationality	Norway
Race	White
Relationship to Head of Household	Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1869
Years in United States	43
House Number	7917
Page	52

 

Det er nok ikke samme mann, eller "din" Gunder - ved FT 1925 står det at han har oppholdt seg i US i 43 år - dessuten, han var gift og hadde voksne barn

 

The New York, State Census, 1925
Name:    Gunder M Gundersen
Birth Date:    abt 1869
Birth Place:    Norway
Age:    56
Gender:    Male
Residence Place:    Brooklyn, Kings
Relationship:    Head
Color or Race:    White
Number of Years in US:    43
Assembly District:    09
House Number:    7917
Line Number:    41
Page Number:    52
Household Members:    
Gunder M Gundersen    56
Anna A Gundersen    55
George E A Gundersen    31
Theodore G Gundersen    23
Ragmond Gundersen    19
Clifford E Gundersen    13

[Ann-Mary Engum]

1 minutt siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

 

Det er nok ikke samme mann, eller "din" Gunder - ved FT 1925 står det at han har oppholdt seg i US i 43 år - dessuten, han var gift og hadde voksne barn

 

The New York, State Census, 1925
Name:    Gunder M Gundersen
Birth Date:    abt 1869
Birth Place:    Norway
Age:    56
Gender:    Male
Residence Place:    Brooklyn, Kings
Relationship:    Head
Color or Race:    White
Number of Years in US:    43
Assembly District:    09
House Number:    7917
Line Number:    41
Page Number:    52
Household Members:    
Gunder M Gundersen    56
Anna A Gundersen    55
George E A Gundersen    31
Theodore G Gundersen    23
Ragmond Gundersen    19
Clifford E Gundersen    13

 

Ja,det har du sannelig rett i!    🙂

 

[Oddbjørn Johannessen]

Takk også for korreksjon!

[Egil Johannessen]

Samme familie i FT 1920 - immigrasjon 1881 og giftermål i 1892 - han het Gunder Martinius Gundersen

 

The 1920 United States Federal Census
Name:    Gunder Gundersen
Age:    50
Birth Year:    abt 1870
Birthplace:    Norway
Home in 1920:    Brooklyn Assembly District 7, Kings, New York
Street:    Twenty Ninth Street
House Number:    213a
Residence Date:    1920
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Immigration Year:    1881
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Marital Status:    Married
Spouse's Name:    Anna Gundersen
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Native Tongue:    Norwegian
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Clerk
Industry:    R R Co
Employment Field:    Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented:    Rent
Naturalization Status:    No
Able to Read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Gunder Gundersen    50
Anna Gundersen    49
Raymond Gundersen    13
Clifford Gundersen    8
Theodore Gundersen    18

 

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1969
Name:    Gunder Martinus Gundersen
Gender:    Male
Record Type:    Marriage
Birth Place:    Norge
Marriage Date:    10 Dec 1892
Marriage Place:    Brooklyn, New York, USA
Spouse:    Anne Serine Iversen
Church Name:    Trinity Lutheran
Church Location:    Brooklyn, New York

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Egil Johannessen

[Egil Johannessen]

20 minutter siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

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Gunder M. Gundersen

Birth:  unknown Death:  May 22, 1940   Note: Date may be interment or re-interment   Burial: Green-Wood Cemetery  Brooklyn Kings County (Brooklyn) New York, USA Plot: 27263   Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]   Created by: Athanatos Record added: Dec 25, 2012  Find A Grave Memorial# 102628718

 

Tror dette er samme mann som jeg har henvist til i FT og vielse - men FAG har nok feil dødsdato?

 

The New York, New York, Extracted Death Index, 1862-1948
Name:    Gunder M Gundersen
Age:    70
Birth Year:    abt 1869
Death Date:    3 Nov 1939
Death Place:    Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number:    21876

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Egil Johannessen

[Ann-Mary Engum]

9 minutter siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

Samme familie i FT 1920 - immigrasjon 1881 og giftermål i 1892 - han het Gunder Martinius Gundersen

 

The 1920 United States Federal Census
Name:    Gunder Gundersen
Age:    50
Birth Year:    abt 1870
Birthplace:    Norway
Home in 1920:    Brooklyn Assembly District 7, Kings, New York
Street:    Twenty Ninth Street
House Number:    213a
Residence Date:    1920
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Immigration Year:    1881
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Marital Status:    Married
Spouse's Name:    Anna Gundersen
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Native Tongue:    Norwegian
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Clerk
Industry:    R R Co
Employment Field:    Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented:    Rent
Naturalization Status:    No
Able to Read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Gunder Gundersen    50
Anna Gundersen    49
Raymond Gundersen    13
Clifford Gundersen    8
Theodore Gundersen    18

 

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1969
Name:    Gunder Martinus Gundersen
Gender:    Male
Record Type:    Marriage
Birth Place:    Norge
Marriage Date:    10 Dec 1892
Marriage Place:    Brooklyn, New York, USA
Spouse:    Anne Serine Iversen
Church Name:    Trinity Lutheran
Church Location:    Brooklyn, New York

 

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Gunder M. Gundersen New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949

birth: 11 May 1869 Norway death: 3 November 1939 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States burial: 6 November 1939   residence:   Brooklyn

father: Gustav Gundersen mother: Karen Thorsen spouse: Anna S. Gundersen

[Egil Johannessen]

1 minutt siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

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Gunder M. Gundersen New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949

birth: 11 May 1869 Norway death: 3 November 1939 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States burial: 6 November 1939   residence:   Brooklyn

father: Gustav Gundersen mother: Karen Thorsen spouse: Anna S. Gundersen

 

Ja - det er samme mann - men kan vi finne ham gravlagt 6.11.1939? - For da er den du fant på FAG med dødsdato 22. mai 1940 en annen Gunder M Gundersen......

[Stine H Kvistad]

SAK, Arendal sokneprestkontor, Trefoldighet, F/Fa/L0007: Ministerialbok nr. A 7, 1868-1878, s. 3
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060208010514
 

Gunder Martinius Gustavsen/Gundersen var fra Arendal

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/775/13

 

[Egil Johannessen]

6 minutter siden, Stine H Kvistad skrev:

Gunder Martinius Gustavsen/Gundersen var fra Arendal

 

Det er korrekt - men det er ikke han vi leter etter.....

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Egil Johannessen

[Oddbjørn Johannessen]

Kan dette være Ole (Elmann) Gundersen i 1930, tro?  Han er riktignok registrert som "single"...

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCQX-9KV

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Oddbjørn Johannessen

[Ann-Mary Engum]

18 minutter siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

 

Det er korrekt - men det er ikke han vi leter etter.....

 

Vet det.   🙂

[Egil Johannessen]

9 minutter siden, Oddbjørn Johannessen skrev:

Kan dette være Ole (Elmann) Gundersen i 1930, tro?

 

Det er iallefall ikke så langt unna plassen han døde - LENKE KART

 

Men, ved Dec of Int, NAT i 1918 er yrket oppgitt som fisker og i dødsattesten står det pensjonert sjømann......og i FT 1930 som du la ved så står denne som immigrert i 1887 og yrket er arbeider (industri: logging railroad....)

 

The 1930 United States Federal Census
Name:    Ole Gunderson
Birth Year:    abt 1871
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Norway
Marital Status:    Single
Relation to Head of House:    Boarder
Home in 1930:    Vail, Thurston, Washington, USA
Map of Home:    View Map
Street address:    Larson Camp
House Number:    5
Dwelling Number:    90
Family Number:    91
Attended School:    No
Able to Read and Write:    Yes
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Language Spoken:    Norwegian
Immigration Year:    1887
Naturalization:    Naturalized
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Labor
Industry:    Logging Railroad
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker
Employment:    Yes

Endret Juli 8, 2018 av Egil Johannessen

[Oddbjørn Johannessen]

Jeg ser det - så Ole Gundersen i 1930 må være en annen.  Det er jo ikke utenkelig (som jeg vel nevnte i et tidligere innlegg) at Ole E. Gundersen kan ha "pendlet" en del mellom USA/Canada og familien hjemme i Norge, og at han derfor ikke er registrert i en del folketellinger. I utgangspunktet var han sjømann, men det er ikke usannsynlig at han også var på fiskebåter (særlig tatt i betraktning hans tilknytning til Pierce-området).

[Egil Johannessen]

Jeg ville forsøkt å få tak i OBIT som nevnt i post # 23 for å se om den kan gi noe mer opplysninger.....