Looking For Living Relatives In Norway

[Cody Church]

I'm looking for living relatives in Norway, who are related to Gudbrand Gudbrandsen Strand ( Gilbert Strand ) that are still alive today. 

I found my Great - Grandfather Gilbert Strand parents in the 1891 Norwegian Census. The parents were Gudbrand Andersen and Ingeborg Gudbransdatter. 

The farm name is Strandeeiet in (Strand), Gran, Oppland, Norway, likely where my great grandfather Gilbert took his name from.

[Lars Kittilsen]

There are a lot of Gudbrand, Ingeborg and Anders... Is this the right family?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052769004689

 

Endret Mai 28, 2023 av Lars Kittilsen

[Inger Hohler]

They were living at Paulsrud according to the census, but most of the time they were living at Askimseie.
The children listed were Anne, Ragnvald, Karoline, and Peder.

 

1878: Gudbrand christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000001212354 There are several sponsors at the christening which may be family members, judging by their names and patronyms. The family was living at Askimseiet
1882: Anne christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000932872 Ditto for sponsors, the family were living at Askimseie

1884: Ragnvald christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000934411 Ditto for sponsors

1887 Karoline christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000031624731 

1888 Karoline christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000936666 They were living at Askimseie

1890: Peder christened https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000001435994
At this time they were still living at Askimseie.

In 1903 their son Peder's confirmation https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000002095324

[Lars Kittilsen]

The parents' marriage?

14.01.1875

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000001402115

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8970/58

 

[Grethe Flood]

???

Emigrants from Oslo 1867-1930

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000643262

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000643263

[Grethe Flood]

Ragnvald 1899: 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/291/pu00000000035870

 

 

[Lars Kittilsen]

Bottom left side.
Gudbrand and Karoline traveled together, 31.03.1905

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/35368/114

 

Endret Mai 28, 2023 av Lars Kittilsen

[Lars Kittilsen]

Gudbrand was married when he emigrated.
Was he the one who married Gudbjørg Olsdatter 23.03.1900? (no 6)

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5062/183

 

Endret Mai 28, 2023 av Lars Kittilsen

[Lars Kittilsen]

Arrival Papers. Reunited with brother A.G. Strand.

Gulbrand Strand - Ellis Island og andre New York passasjerlister, 1820-1957 - MyHeritage

[Inger Hohler]

It is possible that I have found Peder and his mother Ingeborg in the 1900 census, at the Onsager farm in Gran.  
If so the father had died before 1900. And Peder and his mother are described as born in Brandbu. This is also in Gran. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037095004113

[Inger Hohler]

Gudbrand's widow Ingebor seems to have married a second time i 1804.  (Her father's name is the same at the two marriages, and her age is off with only a year.) https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000001405746
Her new husband was Johan Olsen. 

[Anton Hagelee]

For those with an Ancestry.com subscription, Cody has a detailed Family Tree. 

 

Gudbrand Gudbrandsen Strand ( Gilbert Strand )

1878–1975

BIRTH 8 NOV 1878 • Oppland fylke, Norway

DEATH 17 DEC 1975 • Edmore, Ramsey, North Dakota, USA

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/174022106/person/182260784325/facts

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Gilbert Strand

Census • United States Census, 1910

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLG8-5DR

 

And there is this Tree on Family Search that appears to be the same person.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/L4NY-FH5

 

 

[Inger Hohler]

One Gudbrand Andersen, married man born at Strandeie 1854, died in 1892 1891 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060727050129
This sounds like a good candidate for Gilbert Strand's father's death. It also explains the connection to Strand.

Endret Mai 28, 2023 av Inger Hohler
wrong year

[Kjell Halvorsen]

A(Anders).G.Strand mentioned by Lars above was most probably the first child of Gudbrand Andersen and Ingeborg Gudbrandsdatter.

 

Anders Gudbrandsen christened at Brandbu 1876 (no 190)

 

Oppland county, Gran, Brandbu, Tingelstad in Gran, Parish register (official) no. 13 (1875-1879), Born and baptised 1876, Page 26

Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8970/28

 

Anders Gudbrandsen conf at Næs kirke, Tingelstad sokn, Brandbu 4 okt 1891 (no 6)

 

Oppland county, Tingelstad in Gran, Parish register (official) no. 18 (1889-1899), Confirmation 1891, Page 90

Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5061/81

 

According to this immigration record of 1905, it looks like all siblings of Anders, except Anne, might have ended up in US. Ragnvald, Peder, Caroline and Gulbrand all arrived in New York Apr 16 1905 and were all going to join their brother A.G. Strand at Edmore, North Dakota.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-91XM-N4S?i=212&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJF31-JWL

 

In order to find living relatives in Norway related to Gudbrand (Gilbert) Gudbrandsen Strand, it might be worth a try to find out what happened to Anne Gudbrandsen - did she also emigrate or did she remain in Norway, got married and have kids ?

[Lars Kittilsen]

1 time siden, Inger Hohler skrev:

One Gudbrand Andersen, married man born at Strandeie 1854, died in 1892 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060727050129
This sounds like a good candidate for Gilbert Strand's father's death. It also explains the connection to Strand.

1891?

 

Death record (no 27):
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/34400/31

[Inger Hohler]

Quote

1891?

You're correct, Lars. The page said 1892, but that only applied to the last two deaths. The ones above were in 1891.

[Anton Hagelee]

4 hours ago, Kjell Halvorsen said:

n order to find living relatives in Norway related to Gudbrand (Gilbert) Gudbrandsen Strand, it might be worth a try to find out what happened to Anne Gudbrandsen - did she also emigrate or did she remain in Norway, got married and have kids ?

 

 

Here is a candidate for a Anne Gudbrandsdatter born about 1882 emigrating to Amerika in 1899?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/291/pu00000000035869

 

Nr 15 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060727050149

 

Nr. 16 is Ragnvald whose emigration is posted above by Grethe. 

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 29, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

16 hours ago, Grethe Flood said:

Ragnvald 1899: 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/291/pu00000000035870

 

Ragnvald born in 1884

 

Nr. 17

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070117340280

 

Here is Ragnvald in the WWI record, living in North Dakota. 

 

Rangvald G Strand

Military • United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6ZG-M1D

 

Rangvald Strand

Census • United States Census, 1920

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCDM-4TH

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Anne was born Jan 24, 1882. Nr 10

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070117340262

 

This 1900 Census for an Anna Strand fits her well, birth is Jan 1882, location is  Grafton, Walsh, North Dakota. 

 

Anna Strand

Census • United States Census, 1900

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VT-V8M

 

There are several other  Anna Strands born about the same time also living in North Dakota at the same time so a it is fairly easy to get confused as to which is the one from this family. 

 

 

 

 

Endret Mai 29, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

This is likely her. 

 

Annie Hellekson

in the North Dakota, U.S., State Death Certificates, 1908-2007

NameAnnie Hellekson[Annie Anderson]

GenderFemale

RaceWhite

Age104

Birth Date24 Jan 1882

Birth PlaceNorway

Death Date30 Jul 1986

Death PlaceLangdon, Cavalier, North Dakota, USA

FatherGulbrand Anderson

MotherIngeborg Anderson

Certificate Number86 003040

 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/132583:61747?ssrc=pt&tid=174022106&pid=182385788640

 

[Inger Hohler]

We might find descendants of siblings of Gilbert Strand's uncles and aunts.
Gudbrand Andersen and Ingeborg Gudbrandsdatter were both born around 1850 in Gran.
In the 1865 census there were 5 Gudbrand Andersens in Gran with birth year [1848-1853]. According to the information at the marriage of Gilbert's parents, we should be looking for a paternal grandfather Anders Gudbrandsen.

 

The Gudbrand born in 1851 (which was the birth year of Gudbrand Andersen according to the 1891 census) was the son of 'husmann' was the son of Anders Gudbrandsen and Anne Pedersdatter. This Gudbrand's siblings were called Peder and Karen.

 

The Gudbrand Andersen born i 1852 had the parents Anders Gudbrandsen and Mari Andersdatter . His siblings were Marthe, Dorthea, and Anne Maria.

The rest did not have a father Anders Gudbrandsen:

The Gudbrand Andersen born i 1853 had the parents Anders Eriksen and Kari Andersdatter. His siblings were Marte and Ingeborg.
The Gudbrand Andersen born in 1850 was a tailor. His parents were Anders Knudsen and Siri Gudbrandsdatter, and he had siblings called Knud, Marthe, and Karen. 

The Gudbrand Andersen born i 1849 had the parents Anders Pedersen and Ingeborg Johnsdsdatter, and siblings Anders, Berthe, Christian, and Iver.
It is, of course, possible that Gilbert's paternal grandmother had married two different Gudbrands in succession, and that the first one was dead by 1865, but it is not very likely.

Looking at sponsors for Gilbert there were a Kari Andersdatter, a Karen Andersdatter and a Peder Andersen among them. This makes it slightly more likely that Gilbert's paternal grandmother was Anne Pedersdatter and that they were living at Taajestua.
Among the sponsors for Gilbert's sister Anne there were no Andersdatter nor Andersen.
Among the sponsors for Gilbert's brother Ragnvald there was a Gudbjørg Andersdatter.
Among the sponsors for G's first sister called Karoline there was a Karen Andersdatter 

Among the sponsors for G's second sister called Karoline there was a Karen Andersdatter 
Among the sponsors for G's brother Peder there was a Torger Andersen.

As for Gilbert's maternal grandfather, his name was Gudbrand Iversen. In the 1865 census there were 5 men by that name in Gran. 
Three of them were too young to have a daughter born around 1850. Of the remaining two, Gudbrand Iversen at Berger was the only one living with a daughter Ingeborg of the right age. Searching for Ingeborg Gudbrandsdatter born around 1850 there was also just one who had a father with the correct patronym: the one at Berger. The mother at Berger was called Birthe Thorsdatter. She was too young to be the mother off the oldest children. The siblings (and half siblings) listed for this Ingeborg were Ole, Erik, Johannes, Randi Christine, Anne, og Birthe Maria. The father was a 'husmann'. The mother of this Ingeborg was Randi Gudbrandsdatter.
None of the Ingeborgs of the right age were living with a widowed mother or as foster children.